Performance CornerProject; Upgrade a 2003 HD Heritage Softail
Performance Responses from the local shopsAfter sending out the request for upgrading the performance of a
2000 HD Roadglide to all of the Harley Davidson Dealers and most of the
Custom Bike Shops in the Phoenix area, some have responded.Below is their recommendations for the request.
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They responded to the request and
want to help you with your upgrades
I am looking for a bike to upgrade next month (March)
If you want to have your bike submitted to the local Harley Davidson Dealers
and Custom Bike Shops, please send an e-mail to me at kirk@phoenixbikers.comHere are the Shops that responded
AZ Thunder Cycles
Riverside Choppers
Vulture Mine V-Twin
Custom Performance
BDS Bikers Discount Supply
Southside Johnny's
Buddy Stubbs Arizona Harley-Davidson, Inc.
Iron Horse Corrall
AZ Thunder Cycles MAP
2302 North Scottsdale Road
Scottsdale AZ 85257
480 990-8700 Phone
One of the easiest ways to get horsepower is cubic inches. We would start with boring out the cylinders and fitting a pair of Keith Black 10:1 95” pistons which would also raise the compression. Some 510 camshafts for some torque. A power commander III to get the fuel to it and a competition baffle to help get it all out.
All the gaskets plus pistons, cams, power. Commander, and 14 hours labor bring a total of $2285.29, under the budget. Too make sure that everything is dialed in properly it should spend some time on the dyno for custom mapping of the power commander, cost appx. $300.00
Riverside Choppers
3515 W Union Hills Suite 120
Glendale, AZ 85308
602 547-8288 Phone
602 547-8858 Fax
www.riversidechoppers.comThe 2003 EFI Heritage Softail has some good upgrades so far. Why don't you try a Screamin Eagle Stage II kit?
The kit is around $960.00 and about a six hour install. Contact Todd @ Riverside Choppers for further info.
602-547-8288
Thanks, Chuck
Vulture Mine V-Twin MAP
2120 E Rose Garden Lane
Phoenix, AZ 85022
602 867-0086
kurt, here are a couple of ways to go with your bike . both will increase throttle response and horsepower . As you know there is no substitute for cubic inches so #2 would be a little better.
#1 s&s pushrods 159.95 , Andrews 37g cams ,270.95 ,s&s gear drive gears ,215.95 ,install kit 26.95 , pwr. Commander 3r, 349.95 . total 1023.75 + labor.
#2 the same as #1 with the addition of big bore cycl. and pistons . cycl. 250.00 exchange , pistons rings and gaskets 165.00 . total 1438.75 . + labor . we have all parts instock no waiting
Custom Performance MAP
21601 N. 3rd Avenue
Phoenix, AZ 85027
623.879.8488 Phone
RE: Project; Upgrade a 2003 HD Heritage Softail
Dear Kirk:
My suggestion to upgrading the power on a 2003 Heritage Softail with Delphi Fuel Injection is as follows:
Bolt in gear drive cams. Inner & outer gears with install kit. Custom Performance Hi Torque Heads - Hi Performance springs included. Top end gasket kit. Cosmetic head gaskets Oil & filter & plugs PC IIIr Power Commander Labor to R&R top end, cc heads, check and set all clearances, mill heads to create optimum power, install PC IIIr. Before & After Dyno included. Total
This kit is proven over & over to produce 95-100 HP & 95-100 ft. lbs. GUARANTEED, we can prove it.The ride ability and reliability hasn't changed, we are just making the engine more efficient, so long trips & pump gas isn't a problem.
I would upload a fuel map into the Power Commander from my database. A custom map might be needed later; the cost for a custom fuel map is $250.00.
For Performance Evaluation call Nick at (623) 879-8488.
Thank you,
Nick Trask
BDS
15242 Cave Creek /road
Phoenix, AZ
602 992-2229
This upgrade will give approximately 95 H.P. with a whopping 90 ft lb of torque, exactly what you need for a ride with a side car and pulling a trailer.|
First we would bore the cylinders out to 95" and throw a set of Wiseco 95" piston and ring kit in there. Then we would install an S&S 625G Cams, Jim's hydrosolid lifters,a set of high lift valve springs, S&S Gear drive, S&S pushrods and covers set, and HD High Flow air cleaner. For the fuel injection we would suggest a Power Commander 3 and a dyno tune to achieve all available power and fuel economy.
Here is the break down.
S&S Cams $350.00
Valve Springs $90.00
Lifters $235.00
S&S Gear Drive Set $185.00
S&S Pushrod and Cover Set $145.00
Wiseco Piston and Ring kit $250.00
HD High Flow Air Cleaner $130.00
Power Commander $310.00
James Top End Gasket Kit $58.00
Labor $275.00
Bore $80.00
Dyno Tune $250.00
With Tax this will put you at $2,470.00
Southside Johnny's Hi-Performance
1243 South 7Th Street
Phoenix AZ 85034
602-340-1266 Phone
2003 Heritage Softail-Performance Upgrade
To get the most out of this upgrade, I suggest changing out your current Vance & Hines 2 into 1 ProPipe and replacing it with White Bros E Series 2 into 1 and matching that up with a Woods Hi Flow filter kit. This kit will increase you air flow from 135 CFM to 340 CFM. Then we need to tune the output with a snuff cap.
Next we need to use Wood cams and gears to to take advantage of the improve airflow. Along with that we will use the torringting cam bearing installation kit. To top it off we will need to increase engine to 95" with 10.25 to 1 pistons. For a complete price list please look below.
White Bros E series 2 into 1 pipes #050201 Snuff End Cap #10007 Wood Cams #TW-6 Gear Drive #TW6G Torringting Bearing install kit #288901 Woods Filter Kit #KF-325A 95" Big Bore Kit #aG546-99 95" Pistons #22661-99A (10.25 to 1 comp.) Gaskets Labor - 8 hours Total This should produce at least 89 hp and 95 torque
Buddy Stubbs Arizona Harley-Davidson, Inc.
Phoenix, AZ 85022
602 971-3400 Phone
AZHD RECOMMENDS THE FOLLOWING COMPONENTS TO BE
INSTALLED. ALTHOUGH A 2,500.00 DOLLAR CAP HAS BEEN
STATED, WE BELIEVE WE CAN MAKE THE CUSTOMER HAPPY, AND
HAVE A FEW DOLLARS LEFTOVER.
FIRST, KURT HAS MADE AN EXCELLENT CHOICE OF INTAKE
AND EXHAUST.
NEXT, WE INSTALL:
CYLINDERS PART#16546-99 299.95
PISTONS PART#22851-99A 119.95
GASKETS PART#17052-99B 82.00
DOWNLOAD PART#32826-01 149.99
INSTALLATION $520.00
TOTAL OUT THE DOOR $1250.00 DOLLARSANY QUESTIONS CALL JD OR JASON
AZHD602-971-3400Arizona Harley-Davidson
13401 N Cave Creek Road
Phoenix, AZ 85022
602-971-3400
www.azh-d.com
Iron Horse Corrall
1730 E. Cortez
Phoenix, AZ 85020
602 997-2669 Phone
2003 Heritage Softail-Performance Upgrade
Thanks for telling me where and how you ride, most motors are built without these facts in mind and the owners are disappointed when it's done. The power either comes on only above 3,000 RPM for drag racing or the power stops around 4,000 RPM. The one thing I see a lot of is motors that are built with cams that have a lot of duration and the powerband does not kick in until around 2,800 RPM. When you are on the freeway in 5th gear cruising and try to grab some power you can't without downshifting; add a windshield, bags and a passenger the bike feels really doggy.
The best combination for all around power, torque and just fun riding with a Twin Cam motor such as yours is as follow. 95" Cylinders and pistons, flowed heads and milling the heads down .050", Mackie 590 lift 248 duration gear driven cams, Time Saver pushrods and a Power Commander 3R. You already have a great exhaust pipe, although we usually cut the baffle shorter.
If you would like I can put you in touch with a customer that we did a similar motor for so you could get some feed back.
Total cost including parts and labor is $2,560.00. Figure six days so we can get the fist 50 miles on the motor to seat the rings and fine tune the motor.
Thanks,
Nathan
Iron Horse Corrall
602 997-2669
Following is what was presented to the
Dealers and shops here in the valley
Here is the Feb. request sent out.
I will publish the responses the 1st of Feb. 2003
Project; Upgrade a 2003 HD Heritage Softail
This objective, should you accept, is to provide your recommendations of how to best upgrade a Harley-Davidson Softail Heritage. Following you will find information on the upgrade request and the bike that is to be upgraded.
This is a great way to get your name in front of a large audience. Currently I get from 5,000 to over 6,000 hits per day. I know that this project will create interest, as a lot of the people that I talk to would like to increase their power. Now you have a forum to provide your technical knowledge.
Please, I need this information back by Jan. 27th. This will then give me time to post the information on my website at phoenixbikers.com.
Project Bike for Upgrade
Bike Harley Davidson Year 2003 Model Heritage Softail Classic FLSTCI w/Electronic Sequential Port Fuel Injection Milage 1,000 miles
ModificationVance & Hines 2 into 1 ProPipe HSHigh-flow Air Cleaner Kit Owner Kurt Cosby
Objective: Upgrade a 2003 HD Heritage Softail
Kurt would like your recommendations on how to best upgrade the performance on his 2003 HD Heritage Softail. He has set aside $2,500.00 for the project. Most of his riding is around town and short trips to various destinations around Arizona. He has not interest in high speed or racing, but would like more response when he twists the grip.
Should you respond to the request, please do so in writing. Please include a list of the parts, kits, procedures and approximate hours associated with the upgrade. Also include why you think this is the best solution for this upgrade. If possible, your best guess as to the actual increase.
I will send this request to all of the Harley Davidson Dealers in the valley and all of the Custom Bike shops listed on Custom Bikes page at phoenixbiker.com
After I get all of the responses, I will publish them on the web at phoenixbikers.com. I assure you that no one will know who responded or what the response was until it is published.
Thanks,
Kirk Johnson
Phone 602 363-5386
E-mail kirk@phoenixbikers.com
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